No typical CB will be asked to cover Moss or Andre one on one for most of the game. They play a lot with a deep safety, but usually shaded to the other side of the field. It's misleading to say a guy had "safety help" just because he's not playing cover zero. As a social scientist by training, I can't help but wonder if this debate would be taking place if Revis were in Green Bay and Woodson were in New York.
And if Asomugha were in either city, would he be deemed worthy of the award every season in the same way that Peyton Manning is deemed worthy of the MVP award every season? The NFL seems to be the least big-city-centric of all the major sports. Your example of an extremely popular player, Peyton Manning, has played every home game of his career in a rather small market, Indianapolis.
Hell, Green Bay is one of the most popular franchises in the league! Pro Football Focus has Woodson scored as the best corner in the league, just barely ahead of Revis. According to their numbers, Revis was better in coverage, but Woodson was the 2nd best in the league in coverage and the best in the league in run defense - he led all corners in stops tackles for an unsuccessful offensive play with One of my sons has a Freeney jersey, so you kow where I stand, but I am surprised no Allen or Dumervil on that list.
I disparage Allen for having half his sacks in just two games, but he also has good FF and TD numbers. Off the top of my head, wasn't it Woodson who finished ahead of Peyton Manning for the Heisman 12 years ago? That's just nutty. Especially in light of the number three vote-getter, who is, um, following a different career path. Ryan Leaf--wasn't he arrested for crossing the Canadian border with a lot of prescription drugs?
One of the few years where the top of the Heisman ballot did actually put together plenty of top-quality NFL seasons. How many pro bowls have the top-5 earned? That's pretty damn good, for both production and longevity. Okay, just wikied him and found out Woodson co-owns his own winery.
Dr Z and I approve! Oh, I don't mean to suggest that Woodson isn't somehow qualified because of the Green Bay defensive performance the other night; simply that I can't recall another instance where a player was named defensive player of the year right after his unit got ripped to shreds. Someone can refresh my memory if I'm wrong on that, but it strikes me as unusual. Anyway, I do fall under the camp that says it is more important to do the one thing your position demands most really well than to do a number of different things less well.
I would tend to side with the quarterback who was more effective passing than one who wasn't as good a passer but supplemented his production with runs. You can make an argument either way, but I think that covering is probably the most important thing a corner does and that Revis did it better than anyone else this year.
One example though offensive, rather than defensive that stood out in my mind was Shaun Alexander winning the MVP award, then rushing 6 times for 9 yards in the Seahawks first playoff game that post-season against Washington. In my mind that's even more relevant because it was a poor individual performance, rather than a poor team performance.
Fortunately they won anyways and he was able to get some redemption with better performances in the NFC Championship and Superbowl. Or best pass rusher? Charles Woodson isn't the best defensive player this year, or the most valuable.
He's arguably not the most valuable defensive player on his team, and until Al Harris went down, arguably not the most valuable cornerback on his team. There are at least two cornerbacks in the NFL this year who played better football Revis and Asomugha , and two safeties Wilson and the guy from Buffalo whose name escapes me.
No corner or safety is even -close- to as important to their team's defensive success as DeMarcus Ware was and is to Dallas. See, by using the word "important" there what you're doing is judging this as Defensive MVP.
It isn't. Its Defensive Player of the Year. It should be judged on the impact the player had, not his importance. Sorry, this is absurd. There's no credible argument to be made that Harris is a better player than Woodson, and I don't know a single Green Bay fan and I know a lot of bright, knowledgeable Packer fans who watch every game carefully who would support that statement. Second, Adrian Wilson is a good player, but his range is terrible these days - where once you would refer to him as a huge safety, he's now more like a somewhat rangey linebacker.
His value is greatly diminished when playing outside the box. Vilma isn't even the second-best MLB in his division, Beason was so plainly superior a player for the bulk of the season that I'm a little astonished you would even mention Vilma. Revis would have won the award with his excellent CB blitz, but the voters determined that there was indisputable visual evidence that Woodson had not yet "tucked" the ball, overturning the call and allowing Woodson the opportunity to tie and eventually win the award.
First, Al Harris isn't close to Woodson anymore due to whatever speed he had finally vanishing. Harris succeeds on smarts, incredibly strength and being tricky with his hands as he holds more than anyone.
Woodson's coverage ability didn't tank. Even if he is not 'the best' cover corner he is still very good. This 'specialist' argument is curious given that the goal of a defensive player is to turn back the attempts by the offense to advance. I think if you have a player who has a wider range of influence than another and does it really well that has more value. And Woodson is ridiculously smart on the field. If one watched Packer games one would have seen multiple times where Woodson is waving teammates into position at the last minute based on signalling from the offense.
Cripes, Woodson kept Green Bay in some games where the rest of the team was out to lunch like the game against Cincy. Or against the Cowboys where one could make the claim that he won the game almost on his own. But there are more facts supporting the concept of skill diversity as being more valuable in almost any workplace environment than the singular talent.
Yes, the analogy to "QBs who run" was really lame, and inapt. Woodson actually can cover, as the numbers show. Maybe not as well as Revis, but his other skills at least make up that deficit. But there is no "case to prove" here on either side. We'll never know objectively who the DPOY was, but this is a completely defensible choice, especially by sportswriter standards. Just one thing to mention in the Revis got robbed department becasue I don't see it mentioned here yet :.
And Darrelle Revis is the reason why. The Jets lost both of their best players, on both sides of the ball. Leon Washington, and Kris Jenkins. The Jets still were a tough out every week, they held Drew Brees to 10 points, they basically closed peyton manning down on 3rd down attempts, they made the play-offs, and Darrelle Revis is the reason why. Well, let's say that Revis is on an island every play that he is not playing in a zone scheme.
He gave up two touchdowns. It is the other players who gave up only 6. I mean Nnamdi Asomugha gave up only one touchdown. Does that make him twice as good as Revis? I am betting that Asomugha played on an island more often than Revis. Does that make him more than twice as good?
I think Woodson won because of his stops. He had 34 stops, that is, a play that becomes an offensive failure because of the defensive play. Asomugha had 17, Revis had Now, I am not sure how Asomugha is supposed to make stops when he is thrown at a number of times that is a third of Woodson's and a quarter of Revis'.
But I think it is a stat that gives as good an explanation as any for Woodson's win, as opposed to TDs allowed. IAVikefan That is not a fair assessment of Charles Woodson at all, take your purple colored glasses off and give the guy the respect he deserves, he had a great season.
The job of a cornerback is to shadow the receiver everywhere. Who does that best? Revis, no doubt. He is easily the best defender in the NFL. I like Woodson but Revis is better right now. Of course Asomugha is also a candidate to consider. Tough call. Revis and Woodson top my list. Did I mention that this is a touch call? The Packers had the better pass rush tied 8th in the league in sacks. He was good in the regular season and stepped it up a notch or two! If the post season does count, Porter has to be the one.
Nnamdi Asomugha. Nnamdi for Pres! Err…for the winner of this award! I think this should be split — clearly two awards are deserved IMO. This guy shut down multiple 1 receivers on really good teams all year long. In the playoffs, with more duties thrust upon him, he did his own job and a lot more. I think the guy was ripped off — deserves many honors as the Best Defensive Player of the Year. There are guys that part themselves from the rest — Tracy Porter is one of them.
Troy Paulumalo last year , Tracy Porter this year. He should be getting it! Woodson hands down. Anytime you can not only get a turnover but also turn it into 6 points multiple times you deserve this award. Charles Woodson, hands down. No one was asked to do more for their team than Woodson. Dude four words for you. Shut the hell up. And last time I checked, he almost picked off Brett in the endzone in the first game only to have it called back by a phantom holding call. Not surprised. I can see you are still embarassed by what Devin Aromashoudu did to Antoine Winfield in overtime to lose against the Bears.
That is just as big of a joke as the whole fanbase itself. Not get off the computer and go play with your Barbies. Leave the computer to adults. You need me on that wall. Count the number of times Asomugha was thrown against in That number, ridiculously LOW for an almost-exclusively-man-to-man corner on an otherwise-terrible defense tells you that Nnamdi is the deserving recipient of your Darrell Green Award. That is all.
Go Navy. Go Raiders. Lights out is not even being challenged, not giving up catches and yards a game like Revis. The new york media and a coach that pumps every player he has up to be the best player in the league has made something of an above average player. Tracy Porter hands down. He made the 2 most memorable and talked about plays of the whole season. The final day of joint practice with the New York Jets was intense with a heavy focus on red zone work and a spirited scrimmage to end the day.
With the final week of the preseason underway and the regular-season opener creeping closer, just how much do we know about the Eagles? The quarterback discusses the progress made by both he and the wide receivers since the start of Training Camp. The quarterback was at the practice facility on Saturday. Sanders wants to 'take it to the next level' both as a runner and in the passing game in his third NFL season.
Just How Good Is Asomugha? Jul 30, at AM. Chris McPherson. Johnson played against Asomugha and Revis last season and will play against both this season. Johnson and Asomugha have played each other three times — in , and The Texans have won twice, but Johnson has been limited to five catches for 94 yards and no touchdowns.
You just try to do your best when you get opportunities. In his last three seasons, Asomugha has allowed one touchdown.
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